Comments on: County lawmakers err - Adult Supervision still Needed http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:12:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Eisenbart http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42599 Eisenbart Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:39:46 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42599 After speaking with friends and family about this, on my 34th person I finally found someone that thought this was a good idea. After inquiring why he thought this his response was "I could use the money." I think use chumps non union chumps are sick of most Unions. After speaking with friends and family about this, on my 34th person I finally found someone that thought this was a good idea. After inquiring why he thought this his response was “I could use the money.” I think use chumps non union chumps are sick of most Unions.

]]> By: Dave http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42554 Dave Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:09:30 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42554 Correction: The final paragraph on the previous post is inaccurate and slanderous. Lawyers do not make bad politicians with some of our best politicians of all time having practiced law prior to their time serving the public (Lincoln et al). However, John Edwards? Seriously??? Correction: The final paragraph on the previous post is inaccurate and slanderous. Lawyers do not make bad politicians with some of our best politicians of all time having practiced law prior to their time serving the public (Lincoln et al).

However, John Edwards? Seriously???

]]> By: Dave http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42553 Dave Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:48:12 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42553 OK, so let's extrapolate on the recurring expense versus this "one time" expense. A $30K increase in salary will equal an $817K bargaining-table bribe in just over twenty seven years. So twenty seven years of public service vs a one time cash splurge to bribe unions into voting you back into power for an additional year? A simple way to secure the required revenues for positions which would be needed to turn around the regions financial health include hiring more part-time workers instead of paying overtime. This has already been calculated to save the taxed public hundreds of thousands of dollars each year (recurring). Furthermore, larger savings can be realized once a six sigma guru is hired to identify and eliminate areas of financial waste. Another reason why lawyers don't make good politicans (John Edwards??? Please...) OK, so let’s extrapolate on the recurring expense versus this “one time” expense. A $30K increase in salary will equal an $817K bargaining-table bribe in just over twenty seven years.

So twenty seven years of public service vs a one time cash splurge to bribe unions into voting you back into power for an additional year?

A simple way to secure the required revenues for positions which would be needed to turn around the regions financial health include hiring more part-time workers instead of paying overtime. This has already been calculated to save the taxed public hundreds of thousands of dollars each year (recurring). Furthermore, larger savings can be realized once a six sigma guru is hired to identify and eliminate areas of financial waste.

Another reason why lawyers don’t make good politicans (John Edwards??? Please…)

]]> By: Mike http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42551 Mike Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:06:36 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42551 That rambling incoherent post barely deserves a response, but that never stopped me before. First of all, I graduated from UB Law and am a practicing attorney. =But it doesnt take a lawyer to figure out that municipal work and insurance defense are not the same thing. Second of all, how many years are we going to pay the increased salary for this and all the other positions Collins has asked to have raised for the same reason? The $600 payment is a one time expense. From what i have read, Collins has tried to increase the salary for a number of positions (how many more million does he need for his 'blackbelt' six sigma guru?) and these are REOCCURING expenses, not one time expenses. That rambling incoherent post barely deserves a response, but that never stopped me before.

First of all, I graduated from UB Law and am a practicing attorney. =But it doesnt take a lawyer to figure out that municipal work and insurance defense are not the same thing.

Second of all, how many years are we going to pay the increased salary for this and all the other positions Collins has asked to have raised for the same reason?

The $600 payment is a one time expense. From what i have read, Collins has tried to increase the salary for a number of positions (how many more million does he need for his ‘blackbelt’ six sigma guru?) and these are REOCCURING expenses, not one time expenses.

]]> By: Dave http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42550 Dave Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:51:47 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42550 Mike, some simple math here for you: $30,000 < $817,000. Also, we would get additional returns on expenses should we hire a qualified county attorney. In addition, union voters are in the minority when it comes to the total number of CONSTITUANTS. Apparently, you're not just bad at math, but you like to change definitions as you see fit. By the way, which law school did you graduate from? I'm not saying that you're not qualified to give advice or form competent opinions regarding anybodies expertise in legal matters, but then again, yes I am. Keep in mind that John Edwards is only working at a lesser salary since he is so rich from frivolous lawsuits that he can afford $500 haircuts. WAIT A MINUTE! Maybe THAT'S why the fat cat union members need this extra money so they can all get new doo's for the bargaining table at taxpayer expense! One more thing; as we have been made aware by Collin's landslide victory over a career politician, experience in government matters isn't necessarily a good thing. Mike, some simple math here for you:

$30,000 < $817,000.

Also, we would get additional returns on expenses should we hire a qualified county attorney. In addition, union voters are in the minority when it comes to the total number of CONSTITUANTS. Apparently, you’re not just bad at math, but you like to change definitions as you see fit.

By the way, which law school did you graduate from? I’m not saying that you’re not qualified to give advice or form competent opinions regarding anybodies expertise in legal matters, but then again, yes I am. Keep in mind that John Edwards is only working at a lesser salary since he is so rich from frivolous lawsuits that he can afford $500 haircuts. WAIT A MINUTE! Maybe THAT’S why the fat cat union members need this extra money so they can all get new doo’s for the bargaining table at taxpayer expense!

One more thing; as we have been made aware by Collin’s landslide victory over a career politician, experience in government matters isn’t necessarily a good thing.

]]> By: Mike http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42549 Mike Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:35:08 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/03/14/county-lawmakers-err-adult-supervision-still-needed/#comment-42549 Union members vote too and usually in pretty big numbers for the candidate they support. So in this case the voters and the "favorite constituency" are the same, no? $600 pales in comparison to the $30,000 increase Collins wants to give the new county attorney with no municipal law experience. Practicing insurance defense and practicing municipal law are two completely different things. Experience in one does not translate into expertise for the other. This argument that he needs to increase the salary to attract talent doesnt work when every attorney out there knows, government work doesnt pay as well as private work (John Edwards for example) Every attorney takes a pay cut when they work for the government, except if you're friends with Chris Collins. Sounds a little like Giambra's friends and family plan, but with better pay. Union members vote too and usually in pretty big numbers for the candidate they support. So in this case the voters and the “favorite constituency” are the same, no?

$600 pales in comparison to the $30,000 increase Collins wants to give the new county attorney with no municipal law experience.

Practicing insurance defense and practicing municipal law are two completely different things. Experience in one does not translate into expertise for the other.

This argument that he needs to increase the salary to attract talent doesnt work when every attorney out there knows, government work doesnt pay as well as private work (John Edwards for example)

Every attorney takes a pay cut when they work for the government, except if you’re friends with Chris Collins. Sounds a little like Giambra’s friends and family plan, but with better pay.

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