You know I was going to leave this alone, sometimes it sounds like a the rantings of a lunatic, but this goes just to dam far.
Matthew 19:3 Some Pharisees came to Jesus, testing Him and asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason at all?” 4 And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE, 5 and said, `FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH’? 6 “So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.”
If you’re going to quote scripture then quote it, if you’re going to and use it to advance your own agenda, you had better get it right. There is nothing in the Bible that will back up what Obama has to say about gay marriage or abortion.
Obama: Sermon on Mount Justifies Same-Sex Unions
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) told a crowd at Hocking College in Nelsonville, Ohio, Sunday that he believes the Sermon on the Mount justifies his support for legal recognition of same-sex unions. He also told the crowd that his position in favor of legalized abortion does not make him “less Christian.”
“I don’t think it [a same-sex union] should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state,” said Obama. “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans.” ((Hear audio from WTAP-TV)) St. Paul’s Epistle to the Romans condemns homosexual acts as unnatural and sinful.
Obama’s mention of the Sermon on the Mount in justifying legal recognition of same-sex unions may have been a reference to the Golden Rule: “Do to others what you would have them do to you.” Or it may have been a reference to another famous line: “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.”
The Sermon, recorded in the Gospel of Matthew, includes the Lord’s Prayer, the Beatitudes, an endorsement of scriptural moral commandments (”anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven”), and condemnations of murder, divorce and adultery. It also includes a warning: “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackSo what exactly is your stand on this particular issue?
Seems pretty clear. The passage Obama refers to says nothing to support same-sex anything, and Romans 1, which he describes as “obscure”, is anything but obscure.
If he quoted the passage correctly or not is not what I am concerned about. What is my concern is Obamas stance on the subject.
My personal belief is that the government shouldn’t marry anyone and give everyone the same civil union rights. Then if they are religious they can go to a tax free church and get married in the eyes of God.
What his point was, if you read between the lines, is that even if you are a full blown Christian, judging gays for being gay is as much of a sin as being gay. That if you are Christian you shouldn’t be discriminating against a lot of people because they are different than you.
Seems pretty clear to me. So I ask my original question to Russ, what is you stance on this particular issue? Just curious.
Marriage is to be performed in a Church and is between a Man and a Woman. I am against gay marriage.
If you are a Christian and follow what Christ taught in the Bible you would not perform or accept a marriage between anyone but a Man and Woman.
But, as a Christian you are told to love and accept people for who they are. Government does not belong in the marriage business, there fore they should not force a Christian Church to perform a marriage that they do not believe follows the Laws and words in Christs teaching just as the government should not force Christian health care to supply birth control pills and perform abortions.
Marriage is a religious sacarament, but it is also a secular social convention.
Child custody, property rights, inheritance rights, insurance/pension suvivorship rights are all affected by marriage. Domestic Relations Law governs these areas.
You cant say to one set of people, sorry, these laws dont apply to you because there is a vocal religious group out there that think your actions arent sanctioned by their ‘god.’
You cannot force them to perform a sacrament that is against all that they stand for.
Nobody would force them to do anything. If a man and woman want to get married in a Catholic Church, but they arent Catholic or refuse to promise to raise thier kids as Catholics, the Church can refuse to marry them.
Same goes for same sex marriages, if it is against Church doctrine, they would not be “forced” to marry them. Nobody is saying Churchs should be forced to do anything.
The exact quote from above is “I don’t think it [a same-sex union] should be called marriage, but I think that it is a legal right that they should have that is recognized by the state,”
“by the state” are the operative words here…nothing about forcing Churchs to do anything, just allowing recgonition by the state.
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