Comments on: The Left’s Inability to Confront Evil http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2006/08/19/the-lefts-inability-to-confront-evil/ Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:04:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Mike in WNY http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2006/08/19/the-lefts-inability-to-confront-evil/#comment-948 Mike in WNY Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:05:16 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=372#comment-948 <blockquote>if we start with death - fatal disease with no cure - we’d only be scratching the surface. Perhaps it’s a subject better left alone.</blockquote> Yes, perhaps we should since you are unaware that "the" disease <a href="http://www.avert.org/usastatg.htm" rel="nofollow">does not discriminate.</a>

if we start with death - fatal disease with no cure - we’d only be scratching the surface. Perhaps it’s a subject better left alone.

Yes, perhaps we should since you are unaware that “the” disease does not discriminate.

]]> By: Oracle http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2006/08/19/the-lefts-inability-to-confront-evil/#comment-946 Oracle Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:48:49 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=372#comment-946 Mike, I only chose the three things that I know of, where Libertarians and Conservatives diverge. Some of my closest (and most engaging!) friends are Libertarians. I'm not sure I understand some of your comments. "..self-reliance, personal responsibility, equal opportunity for all" are very Conservative and Libertarian principles alike - why would that sound terrible to me? What rights are denied homosexuals and provided to everyone else? If your comments about discrimination refer to the homosexual community, and what you may believe is harmless about their behavior, if we start with death - fatal disease with no cure - we'd only be scratching the surface. Perhaps it's a subject better left alone. Mike, I only chose the three things that I know of, where Libertarians and Conservatives diverge. Some of my closest (and most engaging!) friends
are Libertarians.

I’m not sure I understand some of your comments. “..self-reliance, personal responsibility, equal opportunity for all” are very Conservative and Libertarian principles alike - why would that sound terrible to me?

What rights are denied homosexuals and provided to everyone else? If your comments about discrimination refer to the homosexual community, and what you may believe is harmless about their behavior, if we start with death - fatal disease with no cure - we’d only be scratching the surface. Perhaps it’s a subject better left alone.

]]> By: Mike in WNY http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2006/08/19/the-lefts-inability-to-confront-evil/#comment-941 Mike in WNY Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:44:53 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=372#comment-941 @Oracle, Libertarian values must sound terrible to someone like you - self-reliance, personal responsibility, equal opportunity for all. As for relative Truths and no absolutes, that appears to be your definition to fit your views. As for homosexuals seeking "special rights", that is a mischaracterization of the laws as currently written, they are seeking the same rights. Libertarians do not discriminate on the basis of association unless there is harm caused to others. Your view of libertarians, as well as liberals and conservatives, is very tidy and narrow-minded, unfortunately it does not reflect reality. @Oracle,
Libertarian values must sound terrible to someone like you - self-reliance, personal responsibility, equal opportunity for all. As for relative Truths and no absolutes, that appears to be your definition to fit your views. As for homosexuals seeking “special rights”, that is a mischaracterization of the laws as currently written, they are seeking the same rights. Libertarians do not discriminate on the basis of association unless there is harm caused to others. Your view of libertarians, as well as liberals and conservatives, is very tidy and narrow-minded, unfortunately it does not reflect reality.

]]> By: Oracle http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2006/08/19/the-lefts-inability-to-confront-evil/#comment-937 Oracle Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:53:51 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=372#comment-937 I'm not sure there are any here. I speak from conversations outside of the forums. Libertarians sound most noble when expounding upon the principles and ideals upon which this faltering nation was founded. I believe though, that they are contributing to its demise when they insist that Truth is relative, and there are no absolutes. Special rights for homosexuals seems a common thread among Libertarians, yet one wonders why, since we all have equal protection under the law. Why should we grant special rights based upon one's sexual preference? Accepting the mainstreaming of dangerous and unhealthy behavior is helping to promote it. It's not progressive, it's regressive. I've always thought Libertarians are Liberals with (un)common sense, or Conservatives with little abiding faith. I don't wish to "preach" about liberating the oppressed being a biblical mandate, and there being no greater sacrifice than for a man to give his life for another, so suffice it to say that perhaps war should be left to the more stout of heart. After all, there is no draft, and our brave soldiers understood the risks at the start. God has reserved for them a special place in eternity. I do believe Libertarians share the Liberal position on the war for different reasons. Liberals hate America, have simple unmitigated fear, and they fancy themseves the peacemakers; Libertarians have an overarching desire for self-preservation, which leaves little room for sacrifice. And they hate war in general, but so do most people, even me. Was it Franklin who said Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither? Though I would generally agree, I'm just not sure he had deluded suicidal Islamo-fascists, willing to slam planes into our buildings in mind when he said it. Though I'm not completely familiar with The Patriot Act, it just seems a logical and necessary step at this volatile stage in our history. Sorry for being so winded. I'm going to be out of commission for a few days. I’m not sure there are any here. I speak from conversations outside of the forums. Libertarians sound most noble when expounding upon the principles and ideals upon which this faltering nation was founded. I believe though, that they are contributing to its demise when they insist that Truth is relative, and there are no absolutes.

Special rights for homosexuals seems a common thread among Libertarians, yet one wonders why, since we all have equal protection under the law. Why should we grant special rights based upon one’s sexual preference? Accepting the mainstreaming of dangerous and unhealthy behavior is helping to promote it. It’s not progressive, it’s regressive.

I’ve always thought Libertarians are Liberals with (un)common sense, or Conservatives with little abiding faith. I don’t wish to “preach” about liberating the oppressed being a biblical mandate, and there being no greater sacrifice than for a man to give his life for another, so suffice it to say that perhaps war should be left to the more stout of heart. After all, there is no draft, and our brave soldiers understood the risks at the start.
God has reserved for them a special place in eternity.

I do believe Libertarians share the Liberal position on the war for different reasons. Liberals hate America, have simple unmitigated fear, and they fancy themseves the peacemakers; Libertarians have an overarching desire for self-preservation, which leaves little room for sacrifice. And they hate war in general, but so do most people, even me.

Was it Franklin who said Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither? Though I would generally agree, I’m just not sure he had deluded suicidal Islamo-fascists, willing to slam planes into our buildings in mind when he said it. Though I’m not completely familiar with The Patriot Act, it just seems a logical and necessary step at this volatile stage in our history.

Sorry for being so winded. I’m going to be out of commission for a few days.

]]> By: Ray http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2006/08/19/the-lefts-inability-to-confront-evil/#comment-919 Ray Sun, 20 Aug 2006 20:08:47 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=372#comment-919 Who is "middle-of-the-road, untargeted, compromising"? I don't see anyone here that fits that description. Who is “middle-of-the-road, untargeted, compromising”? I don’t see anyone here that fits that description.

]]> By: Oracle http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2006/08/19/the-lefts-inability-to-confront-evil/#comment-913 Oracle Sun, 20 Aug 2006 17:37:40 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=372#comment-913 Though you've eliminated yourself from being a target, us other two groups still exist - in droves, so I tend to think we haven't been successfully rendered meaningless. This middle-of-the-road, untargeted, compromising position tends to leave some libertarians, I think, with very little conviction at all. Though you’ve eliminated yourself from being a target, us other two groups still exist - in droves, so I tend to think we haven’t been successfully rendered meaningless. This middle-of-the-road, untargeted, compromising position tends to leave some libertarians, I think, with very little conviction at all.

]]> By: Mike in WNY http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2006/08/19/the-lefts-inability-to-confront-evil/#comment-903 Mike in WNY Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:39:46 +0000 http://albanysinsanity.com/?p=372#comment-903 The article assumes there are only two positions, left and right. While the left condemns the condemners of evil and the right is busy condemning evil, there is a third position. That is the position of libertarianism. Libertarians advocate a plan which will remove us from being a target of evil thereby rendering the other two positions meaningless. The article assumes there are only two positions, left and right. While the left condemns the condemners of evil and the right is busy condemning evil, there is a third position. That is the position of libertarianism. Libertarians advocate a plan which will remove us from being a target of evil thereby rendering the other two positions meaningless.

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